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Guest post, Ali Isaac on dialog

Maybe for Ali’s sake I should spell it dialogue. I kind of like it that way myself. When I was looking for someone to do a guest post about writing dialog, Ali answered the call.

Ali has two of three books available in her Tir Na Nog series. She had a huge hurdle to get over with her main character. I’ll let Ali tell you in her words.

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I’ve never been one for giving writerly advice. The way I see it, there are a million and one authors out there who can do it far better than me, who have huge book sales and successful marketing platforms to back them up.

Google it, if you want… I’m sure most of you already have. There’s reams of advice on the subject; dialogue makes a story easy to read, it helps create flow and pace, it’s all about interaction, we can all relate to it because it’s something we use on a daily basis, it breaks up long chunks of text, it gets us inside characters heads, keeps the momentum going etc…

Not to mention the basics, such as proper use of speech marks, new speaker on a new line, don’t use distracting fancy speech tags, avoid the use of ‘ly’ adverbs, and so on. You’ve heard it all before, so I won’t elaborate on it any further. It’s all good stuff that we need to know as writers.

But when Craig asked for something on the topic of ‘Dialogue’, he touched a nerve; you see, the main character in my books can’t talk, at least not at first. And by all accounts, speech is pretty crucial when it comes to writing books these days. So how did I get round it?

I’m just a newbie Indie author with two and a bit books to my name, I’m not an expert by any means, but I’ve worked hard on the dialogue in my books; writing for teens, and with a mute main protagonist, I’ve had to. So here is what I’ve learned.

1. Know your characters. Know them inside out, how they move, how they think, how they speak. Make them sound like themselves, not carbon copies of each other, or even worse, of you. Give them their own voices.

For example, a teenager speaks differently than their parents, a boy speaks differently to a girl, a shop assistant speaks differently to a doctor. Are they well educated? Do they come from the poor side of town? Are they local, or blow-ins? Their upbringing and life experiences will define how they react and speak.

In the first book of my trilogy, Conor Kelly and The Four Treasures of Eirean, Conor is fourteen, stuck in a wheelchair, unable to control his limbs or his voice, but his mind is as active as any other teenage boy.

He’s full of anger, despair, self-pity, self-doubt, frustration, yet his condition has forced him to think deeply and reflect on his life. His greatest longing is to be able to run like his rugby hero. His greatest fear is to be left on his own. He’s a typical teenager in some respects, unusual in others. I let it all show in his thoughts, and his interactions with others.

2. Avoid accents. Nothing turns me off a book quicker than an author’s attempt to replicate an accent by spelling the whole conversation phonetically. No need. Unless you’re Mark Twain, don’t do it. It slows the pace, creates confusion, looks and sounds ugly. Most likely, the reader will not ‘get’ the accent you are trying to portray.

Amazon sells books all around the world; don’t alienate potential readers for whom English might not be a first language by thoughtless portrayal of accents.

My Tir na Nog Trilogy is about an Irish boy, and is set in Ireland. Contrary to what most people believe, we don’t greet each other with a “Top o’ the mornin’ to ya!” We do have “great craic!” instead of fun, however, and we might thank someone by saying “Thanks a-million!” Irish people will often pronounce a ‘th’ as ‘t’, and say ‘filum’ instead of ‘film’.

In Conor Kelly and The Four Treasures of Eirean, a farmer greets Conor with a “Hoo-a-ye?” I’ll translate… it means ‘How are you?’

Be authentic, drop in the odd hint of an accent, but don’t overdo it, and make sure you know the accent inside out, don’t rely on stereotypes, or your readers will soon get tired of it.

3. Listen in on real conversations. Real people swear, use slang, drop word endings, leave sentences unfinished, speak over each other, interrupt each other, say ‘um’ and ‘err’ a lot, belch, talk with their mouths full… you get the picture.

They don’t adopt a sterile pose facing each other, and stand still whilst they take part in a conversation; they chop the veg, feed the baby, dig the garden, watch tv, all while they are actually talking.

You can tell a lot about a person by how fast they chop that carrot, or how viciously they stab their trowel into the flower bed, or how fluently they drop expletives into their chat. Keep it real, but don’t go overboard, or it just becomes a parody.

Often, real conversations are incredibly boring to listen to, and take forever to get to the point. You don’t have that luxury; every word has to fight for its place.

4. Use internal dialogue, and make it as clear as external speech. Listening to your characters converse really gets the reader inside their heads. Eavesdropping on their thoughts takes it to the next level, but will only work if you are writing from one POV at a time.

Head jumping is a big no-no. Most authors get around this by giving each character with a POV their own chapter. This can have a dramatic and dynamic effect, as their stories converge. Unless you are George RR Martin, just stick to a handful of characters at most, otherwise it gets hopelessly confusing, and I’ll stop caring about all your multitude of characters.

Most authors differentiate thought from speech by the use of italics. This works really well in short bursts; pages of italics can be very wearing to wade through, and will probably result in most readers flinging their Kindle across the room in exasperation.

Ok, maybe not, but they might close your book and never open it again. You have been warned.

I use italics often in my Tir na Nog Trilogy. For a boy who can’t speak, Conor Kelly sure has a lot to say, and it’s all in his head. I make sure the reader is part of this. Not only that, but the Sidhe and Denann people communicate by telepathy, so italics has become a useful technique for demonstrating this to the reader.

5. Dialogue is the ultimate ‘show, don’t tell’. Have some backstory you need to divulge? Don’t dump it from on high, give it to your characters to handle in their conversation.

This will immediately lighten the load, maintain the flow rather than slow it, and help us get to know the characters that bit better as they give it their own personal treatment; they might be angry about it, or perhaps disbelieving, for example.

In my first book, part of the legend of the invasion of the Tuatha de Denann is told by two minor characters, Airmid and her brother Miach, who observe an argument between their father and Goibniu, the smith, as they vie for power over the new settlement. In a couple of pages of light banter, which becomes relevant later on in the book too, the story is told with never an info dump in sight.

However, don’t fall into the trap of relating everything second hand; as readers, we want to be a part of the action, not always hear everyone else talking about it.

Finally, I’d just like to add that while ‘show don’t tell’ and ‘use lots of dialogue’ have become buzz words for today’s style of writing, they are not rules to be slavishly followed.

The old classics are still as loved and well-read today as they ever were, and contain long stretches of description and scene-setting, with less emphasis on conversation. If you are writing a literary novel, they might not be so relevant, but if you are writing genre fiction, particularly for the younger audience, I would say ‘show don’t tell’ and dialogue are far more important.

Thanks for reading this post! Hope you found something useful/ interesting in it!

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Thanks for visiting, Ali. I’ve personally read both of the Conor Kelly stories and am looking forward to the third one. I also have a copy of Gra Mo Chroí up next on my list. Please check out Ali’s work on her author page.

She also has a tremendously interesting blog, and is one of the best researchers I know. Please visit her blog and consider giving her a follow. I’m over there talking about writing in multiple genres today.

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This is not a book review blog, but…

There are so many bloggers out there with book reviews. It’s their thing, and they do it well. I don’t want to step on their toes. Sometimes though, you just find something that’s really good.

On Thursday I had some appointments, one to get my truck serviced, and a plan to stop by Chuck’s Barber Shop. For you kids out there, barbers are where we used to go for haircuts, prior to hairdressers taking over. A cluster of men wait their turn while everyone tells filthy jokes.

I knew Peterson Toyota would take about an hour, so I took my book with me. I managed forty five minutes of reading time, but they were pretty fast. They rotated my tires and washed it as part of the deal. I swear I spent longer at the barber shop.

What all this means is that I didn’t finish my book. I wanted to dedicate Friday to my own book, so I turned off all distractions and read like a madman. (A whole lot like a madman.)

This wasn’t just a reading death march. I read half a book in one evening, because it was that good.

I liked the posts Ali Issac made about her Conor Kelly books. The story sounded intriguing. I’m not one to start a series in the middle, so I bought Conor Kelly and the Four Treasures of Eirean.

Ali published Conor Kelly and the Fenian King this week. She’s smarter than I am, because she already had reviews lined up, and a small blog tour is going on right now.

For brevity, I call them Conor the first, and Conor the second. (Also for spelling sanity.) In the interest of full disclosure, Ali is a blogging friend of mine. Her outstanding blog is here. You should also check it out.

Conor the first is just a great book. It’s all about the mythology of Ireland, with it’s historic landmarks and fairies. The story is awesome too. Add them together and it was just an outstanding book.

Ali has been to all of these historic sites and blogs about them regularly. Her depictions of them in the book are vivid and genuine. I encourage my readers to check out the Conor Kelly books on Amazon. I made it easy and included links.

Note: while you’re logged into Amazon, my new book, Arson is available as of today.

I posted a five star review on Amazon, and you can read it there, because this is not a book review blog.

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